
Kathleen Hanna:
At a time when anger seems more present and potent than ever, how can a better understanding of wrath help us transform this challenging emotion into an effective catalyst for change?
Annabella Pitkin:
Wrath is a kind of pure energy that comes with clarity and awareness, a kind of fierce energy.
Sharon Salzberg:
We get destroyed if we’re overwhelmed by anger. Can we extract the energy without getting consumed by the fire?
Kathleen Hanna:
Welcome to season 6 of AWAKEN, a podcast from the Rubin Museum of Himalayan Art about the dynamic path to enlightenment and what it means to wake up. I am Kathleen Hanna, punk singer, writer, and frontwoman for the bands Bikini Kill and Le Tigre. I’m also your host for this season of AWAKEN, where we’re exploring the concept of wrath as a powerful force for awakening and transformation.
adrienne maree brown:
In order to feel something so strong as wrath, it has to be rooted in something as deep as love.
Valarie Kaur:
I see wrath as sacred. The aim of divine rage is not vengeance. The aim of divine rage is to reorder the world.
Kathleen Hanna:
With stories and wisdom from artists, writers, activists, Buddhist teachers, and others, we’ll explore how wrath can be used for protection and meaningful action when applied with intention, skill, and compassion. Buddhist and Hindu art have long been a pathway to insights and awakening. And in this season, we look at artworks of wrathful deities from the Rubin Museum’s collection to learn what these terrifying figures can teach us about harnessing wrath for the benefit of all.
Myisha Cherry:
There’s something for all of us to do, and we need to use our anger and our compassion. Then we’ll see the change that we want.
Kathleen Hanna:
Wake up to what is possible. Tune in to season 6 of AWAKEN at rubinmuseum.org or wherever you get your podcasts.
Welcome to Season 6 of AWAKEN—a Webby Honoree podcast about the dynamic path to enlightenment and what it means to “wake up.” This season explores wrath as a powerful force for awakening and transformation. Hosted by singer, writer, and frontwoman of the bands Bikini Kill and Le Tigre Kathleen Hanna, the series focuses on Buddhist and Hindu paintings and sculptures of wrathful deities from the Rubin Museum of Himalayan Art’s collection to illuminate their teachings on fierce compassion. Experts in the realms of art, social science, Buddhism, and more share how wrath, when used with intention and skill, can be harnessed for protection and meaningful action.
Trailer voices in order of appearance: singer, writer, and frontwoman of the bands Bikini Kill and Le Tigre Kathleen Hanna; professor of Buddhism and East Asian religions Annabella Pitkin; meditation pioneer, mindfulness and lovingkindness teacher, and author Sharon Salzberg; emergent strategist adrienne maree brown; activist, documentary filmmaker, lawyer, educator, and faith leader Valarie Kaur; author, professor, and philosopher Myisha Cherry.
AWAKEN Season 6 launches October 27, 2026.
Kathleen Hanna is a punk singer, writer, artist, and frontwoman of the influential bands Bikini Kill and Le Tigre. Her memoir Rebel Girl was an instant New York Times and Sunday Times bestseller. She is a leading voice in the feminist movement and has been named one of the best live performers of our time. Follow @mskathleenhanna on Instagram, @thekathleenhanna on TikTok, and subscribe to Future Windows on Substack.
Annabella Pitkin is a scholar of Tibetan Buddhist intellectual history, philosophy, and literature, and associate professor of Buddhism and East Asian religions at Lehigh University. Her research explores themes of renunciation, power, and the bodhisattva ideal. She is the author of Renunciation and Longing: The Life of a Twentieth-Century Himalayan Buddhist Saint about the life of the meditator-poet Khunu Lama Tenzin Gyaltsen (1895–1977). She is on the editorial committee of the Treasury of Lives: A Biographical Encyclopedia of Tibet, Inner Asia, and the Himalaya, and is a member of the review committee for the Rubin Institute.
Sharon Salzberg is a meditation pioneer, world-renowned teacher, and New York Times bestselling author. She was among the first to bring mindfulness and lovingkindness meditation to mainstream American culture over 50 years ago, inspiring generations of meditation teachers and wellness influencers. Sharon is cofounder of the Insight Meditation Society in Barre, MA, and the author of 14 books, including the New York Times bestseller Real Happiness, now in its second edition, and her seminal work, Lovingkindness. Sharon’s podcast, The Metta Hour, has amassed eight million downloads and features interviews with thought leaders from the mindfulness movement and beyond.
adrienne maree brown (she/they) is growing a garden of healing ideas. Informed by decades of movement facilitation, somatics, science fiction scholarship, and doula work, adrienne has nurtured Emergent Strategy, Pleasure Activism, Radical Imagination, and Loving Correction as ideas and practices for transformation. adrienne is the New York Times bestselling author and editor of several published texts, a ritual singer-songwriter, co-generator of the Lineages of Change Tarot Deck, and co-creator and host of the How to Survive the End of the World podcast with Autumn Brown.
Valarie Kaur is a renowned social justice leader, lawyer, award-winning filmmaker, faith leader, mother, and bestselling author of See No Stranger, Sage Warrior, and World of Wonder. She leads the Revolutionary Love Project, building a movement to reclaim love as a force for justice. A daughter of Punjabi Sikh farmers in California, Valarie earned degrees at Stanford University, Harvard Divinity School, and Yale Law School and holds several honorary doctorates. She lives in Los Angeles in a multigenerational family.
Myisha Cherry is an associate professor of philosophy at the University of California, Riverside. She writes about the role of emotions and attitudes in our moral and public lives. Her books include The Case for Rage, Failures of Forgiveness, and the forthcoming How to Love. She is also the director of the Emotion and Society Lab, and hosts the UnMute Podcast, where she interviews philosophers about the social and political issues of our day. Myisha has written for the Los Angeles Times, The Atlantic, Salon, and New Philosophers Magazine, and her work has been featured in the New Yorker, Essence, and Publisher’s Weekly.
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